We talk briefly about the eclipse and go into Sexual abuse awareness month.
We discuss versions and try to help start a conversation about Sexual Abuse and wrap our how to and Define this around this topic
Newest portion begins with wins and losses from the week
Thanks for listening!
We talk briefly about the eclipse and go into Sexual abuse awareness month.
We discuss versions and try to help start a conversation about Sexual Abuse and wrap our how to and Define this around this topic
Newest portion begins with wins and losses from the week
Thanks for listening!
hi, rachel, it is happy. Whatever day it is today, tuesday, how are you? I'm good. How are you? Oh, I'm good. Um, it's almost summer here in southern california, so it's kind of getting warm, but then, like the night still kind of bites you in the butt so you kind of like don't know how to dress, you know yeah, we had tornadic, tornadic weather yesterday.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, you're gonna get the eclipse.
Speaker 1:I just looked up tickets to come out there. No, I did for the solar eclipse. You guys are like gonna get them the full.
Speaker 2:You're gonna get the full uh, arkansas is gonna get it more than us, I know.
Speaker 1:But you're gonna. You're right in the pathway, though, so it's, you're gonna get like 90 something percent. I guarantee you, yeah, yeah, it'll be creepy.
Speaker 2:it's not gonna be creepy, aren't you excited? I was talking with this girl today at work and we were talking about it and they were like on the news they're like, well, watch out, because there will be more car wrecks and all this stuff. And we were like, why would there be more car wrecks? And we're like, oh, because people are looking.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's called soul orgasming.
Speaker 2:They're looking outside instead of on the road.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God of on the road. Oh my god, uh, the one in 2017 that happened. We had like 90 something percent like you guys are gonna have this time and nobody got any work done for like three and a half hours like nobody. Everybody was watching, everybody was outside, everybody was, like you know, cutting out cardboard goggles and shit, and nobody got any work done for a good portion of that day, cause it was we had this like close to what you guys are going to get in Oklahoma.
Speaker 2:So you remember when we went outside when we were kids and there was one and we had um welding helmets?
Speaker 1:Yes, that's actually exactly what you should be wearing. Yes, yes, I remember that. Oh well, it turns out, if you just take a Cheez-It and some cardboard, you can make one Like the little hole in the Cheez-It. Apparently, that's like the perfect, like pinhole. Okay, I can tell us badly how to make those. Sorry, your grandchildren. Yes, what are?
Speaker 2:we going to talk about today? Well, we can talk about the month of april. What's so special about the month of april?
Speaker 2:well I mean it shouldn't be like just a month, but it's a sexual abuse awareness month. It's sexual abuse awareness month is the month of April, so there's so much that can be talked about in that aspect, because there's so many different versions of sexual abuse and so many different ways to be sexually abused. Different ways to be sexually abused. It's not just a physical act against somebody, it can be so many more things. I've been doing like a bunch of research about what it actually means, and there's tons of organizations that um put stuff out there and, like try and make people aware.
Speaker 2:Um, I think, like in this world we live in, there's uh digital sexual abuse, um, because you know so many people are on the internet and doing stuff. People, um, I think, uh, sexual abuse can be sending somebody an unwanted photo, right, you know what I mean. You need to ask permission to do something like that, um, but people, yeah, consent, you need consent, um, but people do it without asking, without consent, um, and it goes out in the world over. You know a. So that is kind of crazy how it has progressed into so many different forms. In my opinion, the other thing I think we can be aware of is that it's not just men against women. It can be women against other women, women against men. Um, it can be men against men. You know, yeah, there is no gender.
Speaker 1:No, there's not, absolutely not a binary that really determines it. It is, it is without consent, um, and that is the big key is like whether it's emotional, verbal if it's, you know, visual, um, yeah, um, any kind of thing that is unwanted, and I think that's like, well, we consider the age of adulthood to be what? 18, 18. That didn't work, just so you know, 18.
Speaker 2:You get to know.
Speaker 1:You can join the army 16, with parents consent. You can get married. You know those ages. You can't drink until you're 21 in California. Can't smoke until you're 21.
Speaker 1:But yet abuses happen in any age so regardless of, like, oh well, you're legally considered to be an adult or right, any of those things, um it. It can still be abuse if you're in your 50s. It can still be abuse if you're, you know, uh, middle age, uh, older. You know, right, it's not age gated, it's not gender gated, it's it's consent, and it's you know, between two consenting adults. You know, fuck like rabbits, do whatever the hell you want. If you have consent between two people, right, um, that doesn't matter, but it does when there isn't any consent and there is a legal movement, that is, you know, if you're not 18, you can't give consent. Right, there also is if you're inebriated you shouldn't be able to.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, my God.
Speaker 1:There's so many situations in which you know you're not, you're not capable of giving consent because that needs to be of solid mind and right, let's uh, I was going to say um, special needs, autistic, um, also, um, mind, um, you know, if you have dementia, you know Alzheimer's, any of those symptoms, you still can't consent because you're not of sound mind. So there's so many situations that are outside of the law or legal or age or whatever, that you know it can be considered abuse. Of course, that's a huge underlying theme in our book and it's something that we've both experienced and then also like read a lot about researched, a lot about done a lot, lot about research, a lot about done a lot of work on ourselves, for done a lot of work in our families and looked at, you know, a lot of the stuff. That sort of right has been a huge contributing factor and then impacted us personally, you know yeah, I think for um, how to with?
Speaker 2:in regards to this, we could say you know, start a conversation with someone. You know. If somebody is, I feel like the victim, blaming is so huge. Um, people, when somebody says they were sexually abused, there's like this, um, I don't know, stigma, or people make jokes about it, or people make light of the conversation instead of taking it seriously and um, making jokes about it, but like be a part of a conversation like that. If someone's making light of something or making a joke about something like that, well, how would you feel if that happened to you? Or, you know, start a conversation about it because of, you know, shame or embarrassment or, you know, even like guilt or losing livelihood threat yes, I mean because they don't want to be thought of as a victim
Speaker 1:you know, you know you could. You could worry about losing your marriage or your current relationship if you speak up. You could worry about disappointing parents, friends, family, your spouse, your partner, your whoever. Um, you know it, there's many reasons why they shouldn't, and, uh well, the me too movement also sort of took on a life of its own. But then our society and our, our culture just kind of like squashed it in terms of, oh, you know, they're all just, it was a, it was a a huge swath of people that just went. Oh, we're victim blaming and you're just saying that because everyone else did, and you're jumping on the bandwagon right, which is not the way you treat something like that. That's not how to do, no no for sure not.
Speaker 2:Um. So, whether you've been abused or you know somebody who has, I'm pretty sure most people in this world know someone who has been, if not themselves. Well, honestly, it's like rampant.
Speaker 1:Yeah, statistics are like one in four, but that's the children that are reported. No, that's that's reported. It's probably much higher than that. Um, unreported or not even consenting, or not aware or right. There's a ton more than that. That's just what we have information on and that means nothing.
Speaker 2:It's much right, I'm sure, in real, real life um, when I was talking about like more than just like the acts, um, there can be like sexual abuse. As far as you know, if someone's in a relationship and they've sent photos back and forth and then someone uses those photos as like a threat, oh yeah, to expose like sextortion, you know, like uh, extortion, but like with sexual things, um, revenge porn with ai as a thing, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:And ai is like just probably gonna make that 10 times worse right but, the fact that we haven't really dealt with it in in real life is just, you know, like a symptom of that which is going to cause it to just continue to escalate, because we're not really handling it the way we should in terms of, like, how we treat victims and how we understand the vulnerability and the you know susceptibility of victims to just kind of like shove it under the rug, forget about it, go on, move on with their lives and not really have any sense of power or control in that relationship, once that that has been taken away from them by whoever it is that's caused this. Sure did it happen, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, on that somber note, I know we went real deep, real dark, real fast we did, we got right into it well, I think that, even though we are talking about it in terms of like oh my god, like there's me too, and there's victim blaming and it's awful and it's getting worse, I think that the fact that we're having this conversation is really good. The fact that we have this month is great, the fact that more people are coming out and talking about it, more people are understanding that you don't treat someone that way who's been in a position of abuse or power or sexual assault or victimization of any kind, um yeah, and that we need to be more alert and more uh aware and more um supportive and uh resourceful and getting them what they need, um getting them help I think that's a big thing is like getting people help that have experienced these traumas, and it's not easy.
Speaker 1:It should be so easy well, and I think that that is part of also our, our country's, issue with health care. Um, in general, mental health is not. You know, we're still fighting that battle of mental health. Oh yeah, that it's not treated like your body, right?
Speaker 1:your brain is no longer, it's decapitated from your body because whatever's going on in your brain doesn't matter to insurance companies, because mental health isn't a thing we've gotten better because we've talked about it. So I feel like it's in the, it's in line, you know it's coming, but it's certainly taking it sweet, taking too long, yeah, certainly taking it sweet time and well, you and I know that personal firsthand because it's been over 30 years for me, right, um, and yeah, uh, over it's been right at 30 years for me, yeah, so I mean it's not and it doesn't go away and you can't, you know, pray the pain away. It just doesn't work that way. Um, so yeah, it's. You know it's a conversation that's long overdue about how to deal with that and and the issues and you know, mental health surrounding it.
Speaker 1:Um, well, and we also have generational trauma, I think in our family and I think that's something that everyone needs to understand is that, like abuse that is allowed and or non-consensual tends to uh, what do they say? That history doesn't repeat itself, but there it rhymes or there's echoes, and that I mean, I know we had, we had issues in our family way back, you know, and I don't know that it's our story to tell at all, but I do think it's something that we should probably be uh, talking about in terms of generational trauma is a thing it's in our dna, right? I mean, it is something that we carry and, uh, we've had generations of trauma in our family, of trauma in our family, and that's something that I think you and I both tried our best.
Speaker 1:Oh, my god, I can't stop yawning to like, navigate and figure out, like how to do better or how to avoid, or, and it's just impossible, like it's impossible.
Speaker 2:It's a learning process.
Speaker 1:It takes a lot of time and energy and navigation on how, which we didn't have any kind of well, you're not trained how to be a parent in general, but then like there is no camp, like there should be a parenting camp, right?
Speaker 1:oh your parents should go to parenting camp. That'd be a great one. We could make so much money. Dude, let's start one. Oh my god, that's a great idea. It's like oh, you're expecting spend 77 000 in a one week, tell all. We'll take you out to the middle of nowhere. Give you a pig until you do it oh, my dear god just rent some BLM land you know, and like put up a tent and be like good luck, don't let the pig die oh, that does feel like a parent sometimes oh my god, there's like oh, um, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I, uh, I'm one I always wondered if grandma went into her um, our grandma became a family counselor. She went back to college at like the age of 40 to be a licensed family counselor, um, and therapist, and she worked till she was in her 80s, even though she was, uh, working from home on her phone sometimes. Yeah, yeah, she started doing that before. Covid was a thing.
Speaker 1:Well, she probably did like full-time ish for about 20 years and, yeah, more than that even yeah, I remember her office for years.
Speaker 2:She had her own practice, but yeah, she um definitely had lots to say while we were growing up.
Speaker 1:Um, but she was also a voice of reason too, and I think there's so much value to that, especially well, if you're in an abusive situation or if you are in a cold, like an oppressive environment in which you you know, maybe you don't even know you're being abused or maybe you don't even know that like, uh, whatever it is is happening to you at the time that, um I was thinking about this a little bit earlier today when we were talking about that that grandma was sort of our, um, our hail mary yeah, is that a phrase?
Speaker 1:It is, I got it, I nailed it um, but she was our little like point of like hope and I want to say that like, like, like an anchor or like a like a, if you're drowning and there's like a little tiny piece of rope there and you can grab onto it and pull yourself up, that's what grandma was, because she I don't think she knew the extent of what abuses and things that we were going through when we were growing up, but I do know that she had some idea because she did I know that in time we knew we were in a cult.
Speaker 2:You remember she would say to us after we left she always thought she was going to get a call that we drank the kool-aid yes, she thought we're all dead, but she also knew that we had quite a bit of like class uh, of like class uh discrimination.
Speaker 1:She knew we were poor, um, and she knew that part of it was mom's choice to stay in the cult and that was feeding it, but she also couldn't stand to see us living that way. So she was part of like give us things when we needed them, to like encourage us and give us little like glimmers of hope along the way, like there's a world outside. She would encourage my mom to just let us do whatever the hell we want. She kind of wanted us to be free and encouraged our like spirits of just, you know, being human and not kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, being kids yeah and being silly and fun and not so overly like just consumed with everything that had to do with cult and restriction and oppression, and so she really had a good handle on like I think she really didn't want to piss off mom, like she really didn't want to like lose that relationship, and so she just did her best to like with what she had, to try and keep us, you, in contact with her, because I don't think I think there was times when mom was like I can't come out there because the church said no, yeah, for sure there was. And I think that is like, I think that was probably the most, like one of the most like devastating things where grandma was like oh shit, that's a boundary, that if I cross that boundary and I, you know, demand or insist that I see the girls, you know that, um, I may end up losing them right and I think that was probably really high on her like list of like things that she was afraid of.
Speaker 1:Did you just sew something?
Speaker 2:so no, I wouldn't throw something away what are you doing?
Speaker 1:because I'm thinking you're sewing something.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not. Oh, my god, I did that today at work, thank you, oh, anyway. Um, so I don't, I don't know that. Oh, there's much more to talk about. I mean, I have a million stories and we could always do that, but I I think I just wanted to put that out there, that like yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean what? And again, I don't think medical professions they're getting better, but I don't think they're as trained to like deal with a lot of abuses that happen. Law enforcement, for fuck's sake, no, they're not trained for that. Yes, clinical trauma informed therapists are, but how little of there are there we already know, because it's impossible to find them. Um, yes, at least find them when they're available and have access to them, right?
Speaker 1:Uh, I think about like the grandma story is. Like if I were to tell someone who was in my spot like I'm just imagining myself when I was a little kid there and like the little, like nuggets, grandma would leave us and I'm like, you know, we didn't have a lot of permission or power or ability to go. I want to just go live with grandma. I mean, god knows, we tried, right, we would try. They're like mom, can we just go live with grandma? Or we call her aunt, one of our aunts, who, god, she probably got a million calls from us just being like, can we just go live with you? We hate this place, we're, you know, not happy here. Blah, blah, blah, and who knows what she thought about that.
Speaker 1:But you know, if I were in that place again. What would I tell myself? You know, I'd just be like, okay, hold on to that. Like cultivate that relationship, like talk to your grandma all the time, talk to her about her often. Talk to her often, talk to her about everything. Tell her everything like, right she? I, for whatever reason, thought I was going to get in trouble if with mom or the church, if we talked to her about everything. Right, I mean, we were told we weren't allowed to right.
Speaker 2:Well, we weren't supposed to even be really talking to them because they were not involved in our cult.
Speaker 1:Is that a Stanley mug? No, yeti.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm anti-Stanley. See my sticker Apple yeah sticker apple.
Speaker 1:Yeah, is that um, that's uh grace's yeah, her art.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I bought a sticker off her etsy, shop okay I need to look at her stickers.
Speaker 1:Um no, but I was just getting back to that. I want to talk to you about something else in a minute anyway. Um, I was getting back to that because we need to lift this shit up, or everybody's gonna like stop listening immediately.
Speaker 1:Uh, not that anyone listens other than like 10, 15 people anyway, oh, but if I were to tell someone in that same situation like, cultivate that relationship, like go for it, be a little bold, be a little bit like think whatever the, the worst thing you could do is like try to let them, that person know it, cause there is people, I think in everyone's life, who are put there for a reason, like if you're in a situation like that where it's super repressive or you're getting abused or there's someone, you probably can find someone and I know there's many that don't have anyone, which breaks, breaks my heart. But also there probably is someone and it's probably you, probably in your gut. No, try to reach out to that person, like hang on to that thread, like hold on to it like your life depends on it, and then try and develop that to where you feel comfortable enough to talk to them and, yes, that can be your way out, that can be a way to find your way out of that. So I I that's what I was thinking about. I was like, okay, if, if I could talk to myself and think about a relationship with grandma and how bad it was and then go, had we just explained it to her more in detail or had the words. We didn't even have the words, but I think she could have figured it out if we had to talk to her more about it, and she could have been a lot more help than she was.
Speaker 1:Um, but anyway, okay, how excited. Oh, dave matthews. But we were going to talk about something else. Right before dave matthews released his openers for this year, ah, ah, I thought it was going to be a crank. I've been, uh, we call them crunchy bangs, cause it's too. I'm like you're from Austin, texas, like, or Dallas. I'm like I don't know why you picked the Vietnamese word for airplane as your band name. Nobody can pronounce it. I'm going to call you crunchy banks from here on out. That's it. It, but it's trombone shorty and say she, she. I don't know if you've listened to say she, she or not, but it's like the best music fucking hell. Do you hear them? Yes, but non-stop.
Speaker 1:Um, cory wong blind pilot cory wong, Cory Wong, Blind Pilot, Nico Case and Maggie Rose. So it's all going to be really good. That was my one thing I was going to say. But I'm excited about that. It's only 148 days, oh geez. Yeah, I'm going to need pictures of the eclipse. I've got like one client who's going, oh, and then let me show you this. So this happened last night. Did you guys see it there? I can't see anything. Can you see it? Now? It looks like a sky yeah.
Speaker 1:And do you see it? Mm-mm, now it looks like a sky. Yeah, and do you see the rocket?
Speaker 2:No, can't see the rocket.
Speaker 1:There's so much glare, yeah there is, I can't see it.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, you see the rocket, yeah, I see the rocket.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I see the rocket from side angle, okay, so okay oh, shoot so, and then I got one at the very end of the night. So they uh, what's his fucker face?
Speaker 2:okay, launched it you can see it there.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm sure it was musk spacex or some shit, right, yeah, maybe. Anyway, they launched it last night and it was kind of cool, yeah, because you, just we walked out and it was just like whoo and I was like holy shit, there's a rocket that just went off. But anyway, it's kind of cool. Yeah, it's indigo. Uh, we were gonna try, we, we cut this really short. You're totally like dead to the world. We got to do these early in the morning, when you're not.
Speaker 1:I'm not tired, yeah, we're so like I'm out of words. Well, I reached my word quota by like midday because I'm like, yeah, I've already talked for like talked all day long, five hours yeah yeah, fair kind of done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're gonna have to keep these early in the morning instead of this time. Yes, so we did the define this, which is you know where our awareness, sexual assault awareness month folks, um, talk to your people, check in with your people. How to, you know, uh, reach out. You know again, conversations you said now that, have conversations, talk to people, discuss things. It's okay to talk about it. We're getting better at this.
Speaker 1:Still needs a lot of work yeah then we're introducing a new segment this week, um, that we're gonna call uh, wins and losses, wins and fails, uh, something, something you feel like won this week, whatever it is personal, professional sports, we don't care, um, it doesn't matter wins and then fails. So let's always start with the fails, okay? So shit, I don't even know if I'm ready for this. Oh wait, I do. I do know what I'm gonna say. Failing is okay. You say you're failing first. Okay, I think it's fucking hysterical.
Speaker 1:Okay, everybody lost their goddamn mind that, because they're idiots and they didn't even bother to look the shit up, that they thought biden moved trans visibility day to easter like, and lost their fucking minds like across news broadcast mass media. I'm like, how does this even get to them? Like I don't even understand it. Lost their damn minds that it was biden had moved trans day, this trans visibility day, to easter. I'm like you fucking morons, if you're any good of a catholic or christian, you understand that easter falls on the fourth, 42nd week of the third month after your blood moon period if there's been two children born and after the first full moon of the last cycle between the church of our lord j, jesus Christ, and after his dead body arose from the grave Right. That's when Easter happens. It's not a fucking set date, right?
Speaker 2:No, it's never a set date.
Speaker 1:It's never a set date. So I'm like you're losing your mind over something that is not even set in stone and it's literally nothing to do with the other date. I can't wait until Easter falls on 420.
Speaker 2:Like I cannot wait, Because then people will be like why did they put weed day on Easter, like okay.
Speaker 1:Why are you outraged, like it's so?
Speaker 2:fucking dumb and I'm like oh, this is where we live, this is our society.
Speaker 1:This is our culture. So that was my, my lose, my loss for this week. I'm like how can people be so fucking stupid? Oh, all right, they can. That's my loss, you okay.
Speaker 2:My loss is that on sunday I had to get up at 3 am to get on a flight a 6 am flight to come home that's why you're so dead too also why I'm so dead, but like, literally it was rough.
Speaker 2:I went to bed early the night before, but it does not matter, it was exhausting. So, um, never book a 6 am flight out of bacon. Who does that? Like nobody. Well, we did it because it was like a super cheap flight, but like, seriously, I mean I'm generally motivated by cheap flights, but like in that scenario, maybe not, but was it full?
Speaker 1:No, I know I was like you probably could sprawl out yeah we did Like the way there, the plane was completely packed.
Speaker 2:On the way back, it was like I mean, we had the whole road to ourselves, Randy and I, yeah, and then there was empty seats all throughout, for sure. So, yeah, good, okay. When, randy and I, yeah, um, and then there was empty seats all throughout, for sure. So, yeah, good, okay, win, okay. What's your win?
Speaker 1:uh, it's cousin's birthday all week oh all week, all week celebrator oh god. Well, she just has all these events planned and I'm and excited, I'm like this is great, I'm 45. Ok, so I mean it's a win in terms of she had an event last night, a happy hour Her birthday is tomorrow, right?
Speaker 1:Tomorrow official. Yeah, she had an event, a happy hour. Her birthday is tomorrow, right tomorrow official. Yeah, she had an event, a happy hour, wine bar downtown, like way downtown, and I was like, oh honey, thankfully she did it three to six so I missed traffic, so I I drove down there and I knew I had to drive back so I only had like a glass and some tasting right of wine yeah I gotta drive back.
Speaker 1:But I was there for three, almost three hours, and then everyone there, her, uh, her, her girlfriend hit her girlfriend's boyfriend and another guy all ended and two dogs were like you can drive. I'm like, yeah, I had like one glass, you know, of wine, because I know I drove, and they were like, so can you take us? So I was the uber for everyone. So my little niece on me, sarah, kat, uh, damian, jason, juju, and the dogs Juju and hilarious, and so we have this full car and they're all drunk and they're all telling me how to drive oh, don't you love that when you're this fucking hilarious all day and I'm like okay anyone else want to tell me where I'm going?
Speaker 1:like which?
Speaker 2:lane should I be in currently.
Speaker 1:Like what do you think? What do you think? Just pull real quick, yes, yes anyway. But the, the win is. So she's got that. She's got tasting tomorrow night at the, at her work sarah's place, um, and then a dinner on friday, another tasting on saturday. But I don't think we're gonna do that, okay. Well, it's just a lot and I'm like honey, I mean I, I'm gonna show up as much as I can and I'm super excited. Oh, let me show you her card. Well, this is one of them. I got two. You're gonna crack up. It'll come out after she sees it. So it's okay.
Speaker 2:I can't, I can't read. It looks like a pair of bikini underwear.
Speaker 1:It says thong granny panties.
Speaker 2:Okay you are here, Right in the middle.
Speaker 1:I love that. And then it says briefly, wishing you a happy birthday. I love it, I love it, and I got her. Well. I got her another dress it and I got her well. I got her another dress which I was like she'll wear that to Mexico. But these are um oh, lightsabers, chopsticks, oh chopsticks lightsaber, chopsticks, oh okay, okay may the fourth be with you, yes, yes, she loves star wars.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's perfect, so yeah, oh, that's great.
Speaker 1:Um, but I got her a little like beach dress for mexico too yeah just nothing I are. I got her another card too, but I was like I can't pass that one up because that's fucking hilarious. That's good welcome to welcome to mid-ish 30s.
Speaker 2:She's getting there well she's 35, right, uh, she is y'all are 10 years apart, she's 33 oh really, yeah, we're 12, 12 years apart.
Speaker 2:Okay, I was thinking 10. Okay, all right, so my win. You want to hear what my win was? Yes, it was also on my trip and it was going to see foreigner. Yes, oh my god, it was so good. I cannot even explain to you. If you can't, even that band, you've got to go. I mean, it was epic. He is, oh my gosh, so good. He's 62. He made a point of saying he was 62, but he ran around that stage as if he was freaking 30 like, oh my god, he was amazing. It was so good. The performance, the every bit of that concert was epic, so good. I've always said my favorite concert ever was aerosmith. Um, this is up there. Yeah, pretty good. Yeah, it was pretty good. Um, dave Matthews is definitely on the list, but that's a whole nother experience. Well, it's not even a weekend music festival. It's different than just a single concert, right?
Speaker 1:it's, it's not a one one-off, it's like, yeah, a weekend, right, right, just full, and Dave's music and his thing is just like the like pinnacle it's amazing, incredible, yeah, oh my god we have to talk about what? Uh, camping gear and shit. I, oh yeah, booked with alaska again and I'm like, oh shit, I forget that they don't let you like say you're gonna check baggage until like the day or two before. Anyway, it's a mess. So, yeah, I'm going to still do the same setup with the bags.
Speaker 1:I need to figure out if Kelly's going to go. Could we fit her in our tent? I think so. Yeah, it's no problem, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, tiny she is tiny, yeah, um. So I think all great wins, great wins, yeah, hilarious actual losses, yeah, the stupidity of people sometimes is amazing, like how did nobody fact check when easter is like?
Speaker 1:you're professing christians, I'm assuming. How the fuck do you not know that that's like a moving target you?
Speaker 2:know. Oh my god uh, so funny anyway, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, we obviously do not ever need to do a podcast this late in the day again, because both of us are absolute trash we can't talk, we have no words.
Speaker 2:We've been talking all day um. So, yeah, next time we'll be a little bit longer and we'll also um not do it after liz comes back from vegas and don't do it late in the day, right?
Speaker 1:oh, I want to say that I plugged our podcast. Uh, one of my arts groups was like do you guys know of any like san diego podcasts that are like local?
Speaker 2:so I I feel like hello, yeah, hey, hey, also to our listeners we are coming up. We're going to be on a podcast.
Speaker 1:Can we say let's wait until we get confirmation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we've got dates of when it will air, so we'll share that with you. Maybe next time we'll find that with you. Maybe next time we'll find out if we're allowed to share. But, um, so you guys can listen to us on there, but yeah, let's, let's ask them if we can.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, well, shit. No, let's fucking do it. No, let's fucking do it well by, because by next time we do a podcast it's already gonna be out april. No, no, no, no, never mind, it's not gonna be okay let's wait one more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll wait one more, we'll verify, but anyway, we um. And then there's another one that we did, that we talked about last time, but it we have to re-record, so we'll see.
Speaker 1:Um, I'm gonna let you know on that one too um few updates on that also, yeah, but yeah, no, the next, the next big deal for us is coming out shortly and it's kind of great.
Speaker 2:So stay tuned for uh next podcast, guys, because it's kind of a big deal we're excited about it anyway, yeah, and also, um, if you want to reach out to us or send us an email, ask us a question, whatever, we'd love to hear from you, sistersdeclassified, at gmailcom. And then we're also on Facebook and Instagram, sistersdeclassified, so we'd love to hear from you. Send us your thoughts, comments, suggestions, and we will chat with you next time. All right, bye, bye.